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Founding Web 2.0 Workgroup member Richard MacManus has recently become concerned about the cynicism of the Web 2.0 naysayers. To the point he feels like abandoning the term altogether. Though I understand where he's coming from, I believe he's somewhat over-concerned. To Richard, I say there will always be naysayers, no matter what is happening. And in this case, they generally aren't right.In any case, I find the arguments that most folks have against Web 2.0 to be very similar to the ones that people have made against a similar software concept, Service-Oriented Architecture. As I pointed out recently, Gartner thinks SOA will underpin 80% of all software development by the year 2008. Yet you can find otherwise completely responsible folks like Microsoft's Rich Turner claiming it doesn't exist at all. Unfortunately this, like denying Web 2.0 exists and is important, just belies reality. People are building and wiring together services into enterprise-wide and global service architectures, both SOA-style and Web 2.0-style. And on a very wide scale too. Some significant examples of SOA successes can be found on this list from IBM or in giant SOA projects like the DoD's Horizontal Fusion program or the nascent Global Information Grid. Web 2.0 and SOA are both huge movements that are happening, like it or not. (More importantly, see the massive list of Web 2.0 software below if you're not sure)
Unfortunately, folks like Russell Shaw (author of the ZDNet article mentioned above), seem to think that Web 2.0 is an attempt to describe something enitrely new. It doesn't. As Tim O'Reilly made clear in his seminal description of Web 2.0 earlier this year, it represents the ideas that actually worked in the first generation of the Web. The arguments that folks like Shaw use, like saying that Web 2.0 is too big an umbrella, and represents unrelated concepts, and is nothing new, shows how uninformed even the experts are. And also represents a poor job by the folks that discuss it publicly (though the Web 2.0 Workgroup is certainly trying.) Unfortunately, all of this creates a distorted and incomplete view that is then propogated by the mainstream press, making it worse.
So like any topic, none of this will stop folks, who without facts and who won't bother to actually study the ideas, from joining the naysayer bandwagon. But in the end, it's just like Shaw says, denying what is happening is like saying the earth is flat.
As my post last week about the incredible Web 2.0 software that was released in 2005 (all of which leverage various Web 2.0 best practices), not only is this stuff happening, but lots of people actually care about it (125,000 readers in 7 days on an otherwise obscure technology blog.)
Anyway, thanks so much for the massive volume of comments and suggestions. I've now had a little time to take a look at the vast collection of great new Web 2.0 software I wasn't aware yet and I've assembled a new list below.
Without further ado, here's a summary of all the additional Web 2.0 software contributed by readers of this blog since last week:

Social Bookmarking/Search/Invitation:
Simpy
Goovite
Furl
Spurl
Rollyo
Squidoo
StumbleUpon
RawSugar
Kopikol
SurfTail
Content Filtering
Techtiki
ScoopGo
Filangy
To Do Lists
GooTodo
Online Calendars
HipCal
AirSet
zEvents
EventSniper
Web Site/Blog Analytics:
Measure Map
Google Analytics
Peer Production Content (News/Music/Listings)
Shoutwire
Millions of Games
Rojo
Last.fm
Pandora
WikiCompany
Glypho
Yazai
BlockRocker
Wists
SpinSpy
NowPublic
Odeo
WebJay
180 Degree News
Quimble
Riffs
ButterFly
Bandnews
Mash-Ups
Ning
FlickrMap
LivePlasma
CoverPop
Qube
Kayak
toEat
Aggregators
Google Reader
SuprGlu
PBwiki
Attensa
fluctu8
NewsMob
Blummy
Fluxiom
Start Pages
Google Ig
Team Planning, Organization, Coordination, & Project Management
Basecamp
Planzo
Backpack
Zimbra
ProjectPlace
E-Mail and Communication
Meebo
GMail
myemail
Tempinbox
Citadel
Online Storage
Avvenu
SendSpace
eSnips
Image Storage, Search, & Sharing
Fotolia
iStockPhoto
Riya
Mapping
Google Maps
Yahoo! Maps
MSN Maps
Wayfaring
Word Processing & Note Taking
JotSpot Live
Webnote
Web 2.0 Parts
TinyMCE
RSS2PDF
Grassroots Web 2.0
Knowmore.org
Online Business Software
2ndSite
NetWorthIQ
ThinkFree
CampaignMonitor
Web 2.0 Social Communities
MySpace
Orkut
Web 2.0 Command Line
YubNub
Web 2.0 Humor
Web 2.0 Validator
Please let me know if there are any broken links or categorization errors. Thanks!
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